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Episode 62: 
Untamed Knowing

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Marina Robb

Hosted by: Marina Robb

Show Notes:

In this episode, I reflect on the importance of slowing down and being present in the natural world, while exploring how our perceptions and beliefs shape our reality.

I delve into the limitations of scientific objectivity, the influence of our environment on our well-being, and the need for a deeper, more holistic way of understanding ourselves and the world around us.

Here are the key takeaways from this episode:

  • The importance of engaging with the more-than-human world for reassurance, as a counter to the messiness of human-made realms (political, economic).
  • The inadequacy of scientific objectivity as a worldview; reality is also shaped by subjective and environmental factors.
  • How we now need to develop critical thinking skills, especially in navigating multiple perspectives and complex truths.
  • Reflection on environmental education, particularly the spiritual dimension and how it is often excluded from mainstream teaching.
  • Indigenous knowledge is a more holistic view of the world, combining heart, head, soul, and spirit, in contrast to the fragmented Western scientific approach.
  • Insights on how modern science and technology (like AI, quantum physics, and systems thinking) challenge traditional mechanistic views of the world.
  • The significance of our environment and its direct influence on our health, with much of our well-being shaped by it rather than clinical care – Salutogenesis.
  • Historical shift around the 1750s during the Industrial Revolution, where human dominance and technological advances led to exponential growth and global impact.
  • Exploration of the Dunning-Kruger effect: people with less knowledge often overestimate their competence.
  • A call to reconnect with nature, slow down, and notice the present moment as a revolutionary act in a fast-paced world.
  • Emphasis on the role of psyche in connecting to something beyond the self-conscious mind, with parallels drawn to the creative processes of great scientists like Newton and Einstein.


Music by Geoff Robb: www.geoffrobb.com 

Links

F. David Peat (1994) – Blackfoot Physics: A Journey into the Native American Universe

Martín Prechtel (1999) – Secrets of the Talking Jaguar: Unmasking the Mysterious World of the Tzutujil Maya

David Dunning & Justin KrugerUnskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments
This 1999 study introduced the Dunning–Kruger effect, highlighting how individuals with limited knowledge often overestimate their abilities.

Iain McGilchrist (2009) – The Master and His Emissary: The Divided Brain and the Making of the Western World

Julia Hotz (2023)– The Connection Cure: The Prescriptive Power of Movement, Nature, Art, Service, and Belonging Published by Simon & Schuster,

Dr. Daniel J. Siegel & Tina Payne Bryson (2011)– The Whole-Brain Child: 12 Proven Strategies to Nurture Your Child's Developing Mind

Rutger Bregman (2025) – Moral Ambition: Stop Wasting Your Talent and Start Making a Difference

Marina Lewis (Robb)Reclaiming Lost Ground: Evaluating a Spiritual Dimension to Environmental Education
This 2000 master's dissertation from Nottingham Trent University explores the spiritual aspects of environmental education.

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