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Episode 72: 
Learning for Life

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Marina Robb

Hosted by: Marina Robb

Show Notes:

In this closing episode of Season 9, I’m exploring something that feels urgent in our times: the difference between education and learning. Education is often about systems, metrics, and tests — but learning is about life itself. It happens in forests, green spaces, kitchens, and communities. It’s experiential, embodied, relational, and remembered because we live it.

With the rise of AI, increasing mental health challenges, and the fast pace of our lives, we need to ask: what skills truly matter now, and how can we reimagine learning so every young person leaves not just with knowledge, but with self-worth, connection, and a sense of agency?

  • The urgent difference between education and learning — and why it matters now more than ever.
  • Why formal schooling often leaves young people without confidence, agency, or self-worth.
  • The danger of convergent thinking and the value of divergent, creative, and adaptive skills.
  • Experiential learning: why we remember fire-lighting, foraging, and play more than worksheets.
  • The principles of autism-informed, trauma-informed, and consent-based practice as foundations for real learning.
  • The Outdoor Teacher Approach: play-based, body-led, and relational rather than hierarchical
    The opportunity (and risk) of the UK’s new climate curriculum — and why connection, not just knowledge, is key.
  • The Children’s Fire principle and what it means to educate with future generations — all children, human and more-than-human — at the heart.

Music by Geoff Robb: www.geoffrobb.com 


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